All the slides from the W3c bash are up online; they are well worth the read.

They split into two main categories: vendor and user. The vendor ones tend to imply> that the insurgency is unimportant, and that a bit more tooling will help.

Some of the end user ones beg to differ. I think Paul Downey is one of the lovliest set I've seen for ages; you can just stare at some of those photos and have wonderful, off-axis ideas.. Yahoo!s is nicely pragmatic. Its core message for the WS-* community is "less specs, fix interop",which WSO2 mention, but in the absence of normative tests for most WS-*, interop is hard to prove. Yahoo! also critique HTTP auth, but do raise an interesting point. A lot of push for WS-* is that it has better security -but do you need to jump to SOAP purely for that? Why can't we do more with classic HTTP?

Overall, a good set of slides. It would have nice to have been there. Perhaps if W3C hold a bash in Inria I could sneak down. I think I do need to sit down and plot a post-WS-* workshop @work; get Paul Downey over, among others, and come up with a plan.