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From the people that gave us WSDL

IBM have announced their long-rumoured RESTy Web Sphere successor, Project Zero..

Back in February, Don Box said that IBM embracing REST would be like asking Karl Rove and Dick Cheney to write the Democratic Party platform.

Well, its happened. And I'm not going to touch it. Just as I wouldn't let Cheney and Rove join the democrats unless they apologise for Iraq, I'd only go near something RESTy from IBM unless they (a) denounce and apologise for WSDL, (b) apologise for WS-RF (c) withdraw all funding for and participation in WS-* semi-standards. (d) Back off from JCP projects related to WS-* and join RESTy working groups.

Otherwise, they are betting on both horses. In the enterprise they will still be waving PPT-ware touting the value of WebSphere-hosted WSDL-based SOA infrastructures. Then in Web 2.0 land they will be denouncing it and saying that REST is the future.

No, If I wanted a RESTy application server with a team behind it that actually believes in REST across the entire organisation, I'd go for NetKernel, and not just because they host this blog for me. They do that so I can say things at arms length from my employers opinions, things like WSDL is evil.

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IBM is excited about RESTreply to this thread
On 8 August 2007 at 03: 35 Jerry Cuomo commented:
Steve,
There is room for both WS-* and RESTful services. They both have their places in this world. I've now spent time living in both lands and have gain a deep appreciation for the problems they solve.
Now, with that said, we in IBM are really excited about REST (and it's cousins ATOM and RSS). Project Zero is one of the efforts we have going on in this space. We have tons of others.
I have a couple of entries on my Project Zero blog that explain why we are excited in more detail:
and
Check them out, if you get a chance...
Jerry Cuomo